Not open for further replies. so any pokemon that can learn fly + 3 other HMs pairs with Bibarel, which is quite an easy pokemon to obtain. Most HM moves are easily outclassed in battle (with the possible exceptions of Fly and Surf), they require to you use a Move Deleter to remove them (despite the fact they're, y'know, reusable and thus could be relearned at any time), and they force you to have Pokemon in your party who can use them (hence the development of "HM Slaves". Hey guys I am TheBattleRuler and today I am going to talk about the best hm slaves in the game. This is especially true if you’re looking for an alternative to the usuals. However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. Azumarill can learn the 3 water HMs (Waterfall, Surf, Dive), Rock Smash, and Strength. This item article is part of Project ItemDex, a Bulbapedia. Japan: February 27th 1996 (Red/Green) Japan: October 15th 1996 (Blue). Obviously HMs have gotten more useful in battle since early generations, but sometimes it's frustrating keeping an HM Slave in your team and then sometimes still needing to throw them on another Pokemon, clogging up move slots. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Krabby was introduced in Generation 1 and it is nicknamed the River Crab. Dragonit is great, but is difficult to opbtain. I. Dig - acts like excape rope helps you out of dungeons. No matter what Pokémon I have in my party I always like to have all HM's on me at once so that I'm not restricted in any way during gameplay. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. Let me give you an example. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. In the core series: Generation I • Generation II • Generation III • Generation IV • Generation V • Generation VI. Defog. Flash is a tricky one but you don't need it that often besides caves, so catch a voltorb for it. machamp. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. jonosaurus • 9 yr. And finally by just not having anything similar in Galar. :bidoof: Roserade - Cut. Country. i got rhyhorn with rock smash and strengh. [deleted] • 4 yr. . :) I think Marillis better. Bibarrel. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen keep the original 5 HMs from Red/Blue, but also contain Rock Smash and Waterfall, which were introduced in Ruby/Sapphire. Pokémon Kalos Crystal. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. Rock Smash. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. answered Nov 28, 2018 by Scizor4lyfe edited Mar 23, 2019 by Scizor4lyfe. Bibarel, he/she can know all uneccesary HM moves, i havelike 3 bibarels specifically made to be slaves, but with different combinations of HMs. badpath. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. I usually play with a Zigzagoon/Lineoon with Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, and then put the water ones on my water type- I find all the water HMs good in. My list of HM slaves over the generations Gen 1: didn't play that Gen 2: Furret (Pidgeot was used for Fly) Gen 3: Linoone (Swellow/Tropius for Fly) Gen 4:. Good thing Unova never really needed HM slaves, and the HMs you do use a lot are decent in-game AND could be stuck on my team. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. Bibarel can learn all. ago. but I found that the best pokemon to be a HM slave is a Golduck. Out of all the Pokémon kicking attacks, this is the strongest. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. ago. Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Doduo. tropius is also a good hm slave. I have an Electric Safari: Dedenne, Helioptile, and Luxio. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. You do NOT need to teach HMs in your inventory to a pokemon in order to use them. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. In Generation 1, HM moves cannot be deleted once learned. Reviews. But since it is Unova, can anyone recommend a good HM mule other than water types because water type HMs are strong. That’s not to say he’s bad; he’s just the least memorable for me. This allows pokemon that won't have many good STAB moves until they evolve and gain a 2nd type the change to have STAB moves. 4. This page lists all the moves that Charmeleon can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. 1. Theirs always one HM slave. Druddigon - HM Surf - HM Cut - HM Strength. hm slaves arent really needed in this game all that often. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. 8 meters tall and weighs 105. In the core series games. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. Move 1: Strength Move 2: Rock Smash Move 3: Fly Move 4: Defog Item: Silk Scarf Ability: Pressure Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Name: Kabutops Move 1: Waterfall Move 2: Surf Move 3: Rock Climb Move 4: Cut Item: Mystic Water Ability: Swift Swim Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Anybody else know any 2. 4. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. as an ex-Serebii Mod playing. I just need one pokemon that can use Cut, Fly, and any 2 of the other HMs, and the only 2 pokemon that I have seen that can do this are Dragonite, and Charizard. The Move Deleter guy lives there. ago. Generation VIII. When a Pokémon is holding Groundium Z and uses its Z-Power, Dig turns into Tectonic Rage and has base power 160. badpath. So as the title says, do you use HM slaves? There has been a few occasions where I'd use a HM slave . Generation 4; Home; About Us. Surf. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in. Farfetch'd can also make a good HM slave, as it learns both Cut and Fly. I want to have a perfectly trained and crafted team of 6 pokemon with 4 perfect moves. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Whether a massive boulder impeded the path, or a simple shrub blocked a hole in a fence, HMs taught Pokémon. I like having one HM slave to hold my crummy moves and the nicer HMs be passed around between my actual team members, but unfortunately I have found that there would appear to be no good HM slaves in gen. e. Bibarel is god tier HM Slave. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. as an ex-Serebii Mod playing. The game also includes a Mega Evolution, as well as stones that you. Pokemon Black Version. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Ziggy is the best for the early game, other than him I'd suggest a water type like corphish or tentacool for whirlpool, dive, waterfall and surf. Pokémon Yellow. Skarslave. 7. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. Apr 7, 2010. The HM slave. Garchomp was a new, albeit forgetful addition to Generation IV. Mar 6, 2012. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves. Hidden Machines (HMs) in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Spore - 100% Sleep. Ability Capsule. And Samurott is the best for Gen V by a country mile. 0. Jump to content. CryptoHey guys I am TheBattleRuler and today I am going to talk about the best hm slaves in the game. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. i used him in emerald by acident. Best answer. :) One, you get a Pokemon that can learn four HMs, and two, you get a pick-up slave that will level up with you if you keep the EXP share on and by extension get you better items. . Do You use HM slaves?. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Joined May 31, 2013. Gen 1: Product of genetic engineering, not really the embodiment of any natural or cosmic concepts but really good at fighting and telekinetically ragdolling things. Zapdos. To cover the problem of HM slaves, each save will have a HM slave Mew with the required HM's to complete the game. Check the Bulbagarden home page for up-to-date Pokémon news and discuss it on the forums or in the Bulbagarden Discord server. Perhaps they could even switch it up so that every type in the game has some kind of secret power. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. A Hidden Machine, HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a Pokémon a move. B. All the satisfaction of overcoming obstacles by your own merit, none of the burden on your team's move or Pokemon slots. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. r/pokemon • Day 41 of fusing every Gen 1 pokemon into one by adding the idea from the top comment. 4. I think corphish can also learn cut too. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). Gen 2. It just seems unnecessary. The fungus growing on its back has a large red. I've never used HM slaves. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. JoeDeLait Zig Zag Wanderer. Well for HG and SS I'm transferring my level 63 and level 100 Linoones with pick-up as HM slaves, made it through HG without Linoone ever having to battle and now all my teaam is early 70's and Linoone is still on Level 63. Strength is used by Pokémon to move large boulders to access new areas, find items, or solve puzzles to progress to interesting places. Mew is the obvious choice. Notify me about new: Guides. e. 1. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. 1. However, it looks like you've got HM Cut and HM Flash tooken care of with Meowth. Haxorus. While underground, the Pokémon can only be hit by the moves Earthquake, Magnitude or Fissure, with Earthquake and Magnitude dealing twice normal damage. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. rkman427 13 years ago #3. Move filters. I have Lapras. Since the first generation now has the Unova Pokédex, the logical next step is for gen II games to have the Kalos. HM artwork for Pokémon Red and Green. I always found the game to be more rewarding and challenging by only raising 4 or 5 pokemon on my way through my first Elite 4 clear, and having the 6th slot for a 'utility' pokemon. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. ago. Yes, i know they're old and i'm just now doing this. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. About 1 new team member per gym is the best rate to go at I find. Y. False swipe - lowers pokemon 1 hp does kill it. I've explained why Psychic is good already, Recover is to heal up, Reflect to boost. Not open for further replies. Board Topics. Check a move's detail page for stats in the most. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. Siege mode! It is probably the best slave choice in the game in terms of giving mobility on the map. SANDSHREW has a very dry hide that is extremely tough. e: no Pokémon dedicated to be HM slaves) but with Exp hard to come by you have to be mentally prepared to do a bit a grinding. When I started playing Pearl, i distributed the important HMs to ALL the pokemon in my party, i. Menu Icon. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Cut. -Henry Louis Mencken. Needless to say, some players had to acquiesce to this. ago. 2,833. Prev. This is the place for most…A Gym Badge (Japanese: ジムバッジ Gym Badge), commonly referred to as simply a badge (Japanese: バッジ badge), is an item that serves as proof of a Pokémon Trainer's victory in a battle against a Gym Leader at a Pokémon Gym. Why waste a slot in your precious 6 man pokemon roster with a. We’re working in descending order, meaning Blaine is the “worst” Gen I gym leader, in my opinion. What you’re really looking for in a good HM slave is one that can be found early on, can learn cut and rock smash, and doesn’t learn surf and fly. TM 06 Toxic (Fuchsia Gym): Central to many stall tactics, with some beneficial bugs to boot. This Pokémon has no moves exclusive to prior evolutions. Red Blue: Its pincers are not only powerful weapons, they are used for balance when walking sideways. That just leaves HM Flash, HM Cut, and HM Fly. Share. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. Was said to be. A good slave is Spinarak as it can learn cut and flash, thats usually the pokemon I use early, fly I usually use my bird party member which is nearly always HootHoot or Noctowl. I disagree with wingull being the bird of gen 3. Do You use HM slaves? Thread starter Typhlosionvsworld; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Status Not open for further replies. Generation IV has six HMs needed to complete the game, which meant that certain Pokémon had to be. Johto Legends, a Gen 2 Rom hack, removed HM's and has a dedicated Surf system where Lapras will give you a ride on the field by simply interacting with the water. Rising Badge. It has three pairs of legs with the foremost pair forming large pincers. No explanation or anything, just the same lead up as bidoof, but suddenly it's God Reply. lolbidooflol. rojse 8 years ago #6. The rental Pokemon in Gen 7 especially sucked, cause they're random Pokemon that you have no attachment to at all, and you have to wear that ugly gear while doing it. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. At no point was rotom at all relevant to the function of the bike. Covers pretty much everything you need except Surf and Waterfall. Instructions: Type in the boxes below to search and click your desired move in the list that appears. ago. Since generation 1, you have had to use up precious move slots on your Pokemon with HM moves just to get around. PP Effect % TM01: Mega Punch: 80: 85: 20--A NORMAL-type attack move. Ce-001: 650: Chespin: Grass: 2: Ce-002: 651: Quilladin: Grass: 2: Ce-003: 652. Surf and Dive - Water types. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. Cheats. I also like keeping a staryu/starmie. 5-SPP (19/November/2017) This Moveset Searcher has been written by Hercules G. Did use Tropius many times. Because Blaine is the OG Pokémon quiz master. • 11 yr. It teaches a compatible Pokémon a move that can also be used in the field; but using an HM in the field requires that the player have a certain Badge (except in Generation V). Hidden Machines, or HMs, are items that allow a Pokémon to learn a certain move. And a. Depends on the game, really. 1. Dodrio - Drill Peck - Tri Attack - Hyper Beam - Agility. Same for other HMs: Fly - Flying types (duh) Strength - Normal or Fighting types. uhhhhhhhhh no we don't need another pokemon gen 1 set 3 is enough free points SporyTike. Kiranfina • 5 yr. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. The rental Pokemon in Gen 7 especially sucked, cause they're random Pokemon that you have no attachment to at all, and you have to wear that ugly gear while doing it. And I don't recommend putting Surf on an HM Slave because it's one of the best water moves out there (95 power, 100 accuracy). Rising Badge. Pikachu in the first couple of games could learn dig, surf, flash and I think cut while fly was used on pidgiot. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to Whirlpool. Pokémon Yellow. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). ago. 4. In every core series Pokémon game except Pokémon Legends: Arceus, trading is necessary to collect all Pokémon. hms. In Generations 1-4, Slowpoke has a base experience yield of 99. The Pokémon can be. ago. Either that or sacrifice a move slot on your main Mons for an HM move. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. The HMs were once again changed in this generation - HM06 was changed from Whirlpool to Rock Smash, and HM08 Dive was added. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. . 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. And it still hits hard as Waterfall, Surf & Dive are STAB. You teach them a bunch of useful tricks instead of combat abilities, and when things get too dangerous, you box them so you can have all your fighters on deck. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. In-game name: Daniel. If your main water type pokemon is a physical attacker, give it Waterfall and let bibarel learn Surf. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a. Image via The Pokemon Company. Those were gyarodos and tropius. . #11. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). My Team: :bidoof: Empoleon - Surf, Rock Climb. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. Pok é mon Red, Blue, and Yellow HM and TM Locations Locations of all 5 Hidden Machines (HMs) and 50 Technical Machines (TMs) in the Kanto region in Pokémon Red, Blue, and Yellow Versions on Gameboy and 3DS Virtual Console. Reviews. 5 3. Itsu demo sono egao. Re: HM Whore Showdown! It's probably best not to use language like that in the thread/poll title. 6. You can beat all 16 gyms in whatever order you choose, starting from any town – all without a single HM move. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. It has the most amount of HMs that it can learn, I mean look at all of them! Bibarel, as a beaver, can do a lot of things that other animals can't. In Generations 1-4, Oddish has a base experience yield of 78. 2. It is kind of an HM slave, but one that can hold its own in battle. Flash is a tm so just put it on someone and then replace it if you want :p. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. If you want a stronger Normal/Flying type maybe go for the Turducken pokemon line (Forget what its called) or for another flying type go with the Cloucat line (Dark/Flying) since it can be speedy and mixed and has a huge variety. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the moves we need but dont want to use. Turns into using HM slaves for surf as your water type. A striped background indicates a generation in which the move can only be obtained via event or as a special move. However, I knew that I didn't want to ruin one of my real pokemon with Flash, so I stubbornly bumped my way through Rock tunnel in the dark, every single playthrough (of which, there were many). Gen 2. It is 1. Wishcash. 8. If Secret Power is used in a building in Generation III, it will display the animation of Strength. About | Dex | Forums. Beyond that, I think you're clear, but HMs are a little more required in HG/SS. There are portions of ORAS where I actually needed to carry two HM slaves, one of which knew all the "land" HMs like Cut and Strength and the other which knew all. The function of HMs remains the same. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. If I needed to teach an HM it'd be nice if it was decent in battle, like Strength. The term originates from GameFAQs. Pokémon Blue. Do you? In the beginning of the game, I always catch one of those derpy Pokemon like Patrat or something for the early HMs like Cut and (before Gen V) Rock Smash. The amount of damage from the poison increases every turn. tropius is also a good hm slave. However, many items and side-quests may require you to use the HMs Strength, Surf, Dive and Waterfall. Do the opposite if your main water type is a special attacker. You either have a nickname planned from the moment you see it or spend two hours ruminating because you don’t wanna ruin such an amazing Pokémon with such a shitty name. 5. imgur. This meme points out the hilarious irony of Swampert's buff build yet weakness to a. This item article is part of Project ItemDex, a Bulbapedia. com Gen I, either of the Nidorans or Sandshrew are awesome for HM slaves. hms. Obviously, Mew is the best HM slave, if you use a gameshark or the Catch Mew glitch. Starting from Generation II, items can be held by Pokémon, allowing indirect trading of holdable items. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. As such, a pokemon that can carry four HMs is a natural and objective example of a HM Slave. Pokémon Y Friend Code: 4441-9508-9799. In Black 2 and White 2, if a Pokémon in the player's party knows the move Rock Smash when they talk to one of the Workers in Clay Tunnel, they can help clear a section of. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. Just saying the bike has a rotom in it is a massive cop out. Generation VII • Generation VIII ( SwSh • BDSP) • Generation IX. Krabby/Kingler are the best HM mules for use throughout the game, as this time, Krabby can be caught with the Old Rod in locations like Route 40. #2. To each their own rules, but generally you're allowed to have an hm slave. I know, I’m a hypocrite. Bibarel. Gyarados is also great. I've never really had an issue with HMs, my parties generally were able to learn all of the moves, and it's not like they were built to be competitive mons to begin with so it was okay to me that they learned them. Pokemon Black Version DS. Pokémon Gold & Silver added two new HMs to the five from Generation 1 - both used in water. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. 5 3. Pokémon Brilliant Diamond. I personally think this is wrong, we should instead use HM indentured servants, and after a certain amount of time free them. The egg cycles of the pokemon are 40 (10,024–10,280 steps). Rui_O_Grande_PT • 2 yr. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. . 1. The ideal HM slave learns multiple HM moves for efficient use of party slots. This was the first generation where I decided to try incorporating the HMs into the party rather than using a slave and it turned out pretty nice, adding some flexibility by having another well developed poke, although some with worthless moves. This is the place for most…There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. ago. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. Pokédex; Games; TutorialsFor Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "I just heard you won't need HM slaves this gen". This is the place for most things Pokémon on Reddit—TV… Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit HomeI beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). HM01 (Japanese: ひでんマシン01 Secret Machine 01) is an HM introduced in Generation I. 1. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Zigzagoon/Linoone every time I play gen 3. I think corphish can also learn cut too. sandslash. However these HMs are surf and fly, which are the most important for traversing the Hoenn map. Pokémon Blue. Flash and Defog are for the weak. He also has a 1% encounter rate so you're better off leveling a Drantini or a Dragonair. 5 posts, 9/15 1:10PM. A New HM System: Have access to all of your favourite HMs without the hassle of carrying HM slaves! As long as your Pokemon can learn an HM, they will be able to use it in the overworld. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. A group of Electric-type Pokémon based on rodents, consisting of Pikachu, Raichu (sometimes omitted), Pichu (sometimes omitted), Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, Emolga, Dedenne, Togedemaru, Morpeko, Pawmi, Pawmo, and Pawmot. Below are all the Pokémon in the Kalos Pokédex with green ticks showing which HMs each can learn. I want to have a perfectly trained and crafted team of 6 pokemon with 4 perfect moves. However, when faced with a grass-type Pokémon, it quickly becomes useless. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. First, by reducing the number of HM puzzles in Kalos. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. Yes, i know they're old and i'm just now doing this. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. Non-battle moves Moves that can be used in the field, outside of battle. Can even learn surf, though I usually had a good water type with that bc surf was so OP. She's currently level 49 cause when my current. Lists of TM, HM, and TR locations. R. Linoone (HG/SS Only) Linoone (and Zigzagoon) continue to reign supreme as the best and most reliable HM slaves in the entire series. They have been since gen 5. re: Best HM Slave. A pink pincer-like mouth with two teeth, stubby forepaws, and a. . Pokémon Yellow. Dragonite makes a pretty good hm slave. Ask him to remove the HM moves and any other moves you'll fee like deleting. Usable Tier. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves.